The Life Of A Web3 Entrepreneur

In this episode of The Student Guide, we sit down with Nkeiru, founder and CEO of Web3sy, a platform making emerging technologies like AI, blockchain, and quantum computing accessible to young people. Alongside running Web3sy, Nkeiru is a full-time software engineer, educator, and passionate advocate for diversity in tech.

We explore her journey into technology, from gaming and coding as a teenager to building an organisation that teaches 8-15 year olds about Web3, artificial intelligence, and digital innovation. Innu shares insights on employability, entrepreneurship, and why introducing young learners to STEM, coding, and blockchain is vital for the future of work.

This conversation also touches on the importance of representation in tech, the challenges of starting a company, and how to create inclusive opportunities for underrepresented communities. If you’re curious about careers in tech, Web3 education, AI tools, or breaking into the creative and digital industries, this episode is packed with advice and inspiration for young professionals, entrepreneurs, and future innovators.

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Chapters

• 0:00 A New Era of Freedom
• 0:51 Welcome to The Student Guide
• 1:36 Meet Our Guest: Nkeiru
• 5:25 The Inspiration Behind Web3sy
• 8:50 Exploring AI and Emerging Technologies
• 12:58 Inclusion Through Innovation
• 14:43 Treasure Talks: Personal Milestones
• 17:22 Travel Tales and Favourite Destinations
• 24:29 Building Bridges in Tech
• 30:51 The Future of Education and Tech
• 34:51 Passing the Mic: Host's Insights
• 37:13 Personal Significance of the Necklace
• 37:45 Latest Tech Interests
• 38:24 DJI Osmo Pocket Camera
• 40:07 AI-Powered Switchboards
• 42:29 Xbox Game Pass and Handheld Console
• 50:25 Dungeons and Dragons Enthusiasm
• 55:22 Biotechnology and Cyberpunk
• 1:07:12 Coding Black Females Spotlight
• 1:08:25 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Transcript

Nkeiru

Nkeiru: [00:00:00] It was like, wow, I could actually put my mind to it and get it done. I think it's something that, yes, some people see it as a coming of age thing, and I do, but um, it's something that I don't think maybe we give ourselves enough credit for. Um, this was, I, I can't really convey how emotional it was for me because I just really, it's like, it's like a wow.

Nkeiru: It's about time feeling. It's like, wow, has it finally happened, kind of feeling. Um, and I'm still, um, regaining or gaining my confidence in driving and stuff, but it's like, it's unlocked a whole new era for me, a whole new level of freedom. Um, a whole new level of, you know, capability for me to do whatever I want.

Nkeiru: And it's like, I think that's, that's it. I unlock a new era of myself, so I definitely feel like an adult. Um, and I'm just looking forward to where this takes me.

Nkeiru: Hope you're doing well. Hope everyone answers themselves. Welcome to another episode of The Student Guide, where we discuss amazing topics with amazing guest speakers. And as we all know, you are students of life and we are here to give you [00:01:00] amazing advice for amazing people doing incredible work. As you know, I absolutely hate introductions, so I'm not gonna do the introductions for our guests, as in typical fashion.

Nkeiru: I will let our guests introduce themselves, so our guests for I, I think if I have planned this right, this is halfway through season eight, which may sound casual for all of you guys, but this is an impressive feat for me 'cause I've never recorded this far in advance and I'm so proud of myself. Um. But yes, could we know you we're halfway through the season, so, uh, you, you are a pinnacle moment in, in our, in our audience.

Nkeiru: Honored. You're very welcome. Could we know a bit more about you? Yes. 

Nkeiru: And what you doing? Yes, of course. Hi everyone. My name is Innu, or just inky for short. I'm Yoruba and ibo, uh, and British. Born and raised in London. Um, what am I doing here? I'm the CEO and founder of Web3 Z. We make Web3 easy and we teach kids about emerging technologies such as quantum computing, ai, blockchain, uh, through online after school clubs, workshops, and a technical blog.

Nkeiru: Um, amongst that I'm [00:02:00] also working on a variety of other projects. My masters, um, I'm a full-time software engineer as well, so lots to talk about, not. Lots, uh, lots that going on in my life. Love to keep myself busy. 

Nkeiru: Uh, one thing I will say, it's not related to anything we're discussing today, but, uh, I love the elevator pitch 'cause Yes, you, it's perfect practice.

Nkeiru: Um, and it's a great way to describe your business, uh, which is, which is a skill. It's something that, uh, if you're listening and you have a business, uh, that would be our first advice for today's episode. Um, but we're gonna start off with our segment of 44 questions, which are brought by the amazing Amanda from 44 words.

Nkeiru: She provides a question for our guest speakers to us to learn a bit more about them in the creative style. Okay. Uh, we we're gonna start off with one question, and if you allow it, we might learn fatigue. Oh. Uh, but the first question is how do you define success? 

Nkeiru: Oh, oh gosh, that's a heavy first question.

Nkeiru: Crazily enough. Someone asked me that today. Oh, wow. And I was like, yeah, I dunno. So now I have to think about it. Um, [00:03:00] okay. What was interesting about how they asked me today is, um, they were asking this in the context of growing up in an African household. Um, and I was like, you know, for the longest time, success, um, has been told to us to be, you know, getting a really good job, um, having financial stability and security.

Nkeiru: Um, and that's the mentality I took with me throughout, uh, secondary school. Six, mom, dah, dah, dah, da. Um, and it's not until recently that I've had to ask myself, you know, incu, are you happy? Are you successful? Um, and I think success to me boils down to that long term happiness. It boils down to not only that, but self-control as well.

Nkeiru: Mm-hmm. Um, happiness. A lot of people say that happiness isn't an emotion, it's like a choice. 

Nkeiru: Mm-hmm. 

Nkeiru: Um, so sometimes you have to make, uh, conscious decisions. Um, and what can help make conscious decisions is. Uh, learning to learning about yourself. Mm-hmm. So learning, you know, who are you, what do I like?

Nkeiru: What are my morals? Da da da, dah. Um, and also just like self-soothing. 

Nkeiru: Mm. 

Nkeiru: So I think when you, um, employ all of those skills, uh, you can really help yourself and the [00:04:00] people around you. And I think T-L-D-R-I think success is just being happy for me. I'd be happy if, you know, I climb either the corporate ladder or the ladder within my own business.

Nkeiru: That still counts. So yeah, it boils down to happiness. 

Nkeiru: Okay. Thank you very much. And the next question is, uh, what color would you use to describe your creativity? 

Nkeiru: Teal because teal is my favorite color. Um, and okay, now to expand on that, um, if I were to make teal, I'd probably use colors, blue and green.

Nkeiru: Blue is very calming. Green is also very chill. I'm thinking of stones like jade and stuff right now. Um, but yeah, teal is really cool. Teal comes in, uh, lots of different shades. Um, some might call it green. 

Nkeiru: Mm-hmm. 

Nkeiru: Um, but I don't know, I think, I think it's just a calming color, but it's very strong as well.

Nkeiru: It's quite easy to identify. You kind of know what it is. It's like, wow, that's teal. So, I don't know. I feel like, [00:05:00] yeah, 

Nkeiru: something bold. Yeah. Bold com. Bold com. That's amazing. Um, and would you say that's a description of yourself? I think 

Nkeiru: so, yeah, I'm, I'm actually not very calm. I'm actually not very calm, but I'm, I'm putting myself together for this, for this podcast.

Nkeiru: Thank 

Nkeiru: you very much. Um, we're gonna go started with the first question, um, which is about your, you know, your journey, uh, essentially from being, well, you are multifaceted journey. So what inspired you to create Web3 Z and why was it important to start with young learners, particularly age from eight to 15?

Nkeiru: Oh, okay. What inspired me, um. Okay, so growing up I did a lot of tutoring, um, as a part-time job. Mm-hmm. Um, so I was always in like the education space. I was tutored myself, math and English. Um, and then on the flip side, I was also always interested in tech. My parents never allowed me to leave the house when I was younger, so I was always, um, online playing games, like virtual worlds and stuff.

Nkeiru: Uh, that got me [00:06:00] interested in game development, which got me interested in web development, dah, dah. Ended up choosing computer sciences study for my undergraduate. Um, and so what Web FU does is marries those, those two things, uh, marries the technical aspect and my love for tech and technology, um, as well as, uh, tutoring.

Nkeiru: So that's kind of the inspiration. But also when I was younger, there was no. There was no way phrase, there was no, um, resource pack or any, uh, body that would allow me as let's say a 13, 14-year-old to learn more about emerging technologies. Mm. Um, artificial intelligence didn't start this year. It was a thing back then as well, but it was very sci-fi es.

Nkeiru: Um, didn't really know too much about it, but I knew about it and I was like, how do I get into this? Um, and there just wasn't anything that was structured for someone of that age to consume, to learn more about it and to benefit from it. Um, I feel like a lot of us are consumers, um, and very few of us are actually able to create with these tools that are very widely accessible, but [00:07:00] just maybe have a, a big learning curve.

Nkeiru: Mm. So the idea is to answer the second question, to introduce, uh, these emerging technologies to kids or to people in general at a younger level, at lower stage. Otherwise, some people may find their first touch point with these things at university level. Mm. Um, so it's really, it's really interesting not only to consume these tools, but also know what they are, to know the dangers and the ethics and the effects of these things.

Nkeiru: And also how to use them to your advantage because they are supposed to be tools for everyone. 

Nkeiru: Mm. 

Nkeiru: Um, so that's the idea. That's the hope. Yeah. 

Nkeiru: Um. I mean, I know I said this when we had our like, catch up before the recording. Um, but yeah, that's all very impressive. Uh, uh, um, I guess the one thing I'll say is, uh, it's really clear to me that you not only like you, you emphasize with the problem that your business solves.

Nkeiru: Mm-hmm. But also you have a clear understanding of like why it's needed to exist. I already spoke about like elevator pictures. I'm not gonna lie, I'm already like, [00:08:00] if I was an investor, I'm already thinking. Um, thank you. I need to, I need to bring out my wallet and, and start with investing. 'cause yeah, I think, like you said, like it's so cool the work that you do, uh, as someone who is not in tech, uh, and likes tech, uh, from afar, I'm a, you know, no cameras and I know how they work, but, uh, all the stuff you're doing is, it's like over my head, not in a bad way.

Nkeiru: It's very impressive. And I think it's really cool to see like the areas of work that, you know, uh, from looking at your website, the areas of work that you do, uh, and I think it's just been als like awesome for me to just. I guess like what you said, like I love tech and when I was younger to have something like this would've been incredible.

Nkeiru: Um, and as someone similarly who like loves gaming, um, and like, use and like, loves the tech aspect, tech aspect of that, 'cause even this is a massive tantrum, but it links to what I'm talking about. Mm-hmm. Um, is as you mentioned with like ai. So it's interesting to see that. Now there's a game that came out this year, it's called Doom, the Dark Ages.

Nkeiru: And it utilizes AI in the scaling when it [00:09:00] comes to like video games. Mm-hmm. So the biggest issue that video games have is stuff in the distance has to be blurred or like the resolution is dropped because if it kept that quality resolution, it basically will cause the game to be either super massive or to crash on most modern devices.

Nkeiru: So what they do is they downscale it. So it's sort of. I guess it's sort of like in reality that the further something is away, the more grainier it may look, but the closer you get to it, the better quality it will be. So it's essentially the same thing, but with this AI tool that they use, I've forgotten what it's called.

Nkeiru: Uh, I think it's by the company Nvidia. Um, it basically uses the, it uses the AI to create like an adaptability with the scaling. So it still keeps that upscaling of it, but it looks really nice. Mm-hmm. Um, and yeah, like when, so there's a gamer that I watched called Brad, Brad, um, and he basically like played the game and showcasing it and was just like, this is really sick.

Nkeiru: And I was like, this is really cool. 'cause I couldn't even tell, like, he was just like, everything looks great. And I was like, this is amazing and it's cool to see the uses of AI in this way. 'cause I never thought this could be something for gaming. And mm-hmm. Yeah. Essentially fanboying out aside, um, it's great to see the incredible work that you're doing.

Nkeiru: Um, and [00:10:00] yeah, like I said, like something like this, when I was younger with a deaf. 

Nkeiru: My alley. No, honestly, I think it's interesting you bring that up because when people hear of ai, I think most people start thinking of chat, GPT, you know, a personal assistant kind of thing. But the actual tool of artificial intelligence, what it is as a concept as, you know, even if you think about it as uh, something being trained on information is so applicable to so many different things.

Nkeiru: Um, so it's really interesting that that will, that AI tool was being, sorry that AI tool was able to help in, you know, video graphics like, and I'm sure it's useful in many different stages of the game development process as well. So that's really 

Nkeiru: a hundred percent. And I think one final thing, uh, I'm gonna mention it.

Nkeiru: Uh, I don't think the person will mind, but I will check if I can find the details. But at a pitching event, uh, and someone who works in the creative industries, he is building an AI tool. 'cause he basically said, actor, if you are like a young actor and you want to go for auditions, he said, typically the way it works is you can hire someone to read the script with you.

Nkeiru: You can ask a family [00:11:00] member or friend or you could. Record yourself doing both. But he said, obviously it feels a bit awkward. It's not great hiring someone costs money, family and friends depends on their availability. So he's creating an I tool to essentially help actors, like, so they upload their script, they say like, oh, you know, it's, I'm no John, uh, they're male.

Nkeiru: Uh, they say this lines, I say these lines and it's basically supposed to be an AI tool that helps actors to essentially audition and like practice their stuff. And I think for me that's like you said, like that's an interesting case for AI and like how it could be used. Because in my mind I was like, I a didn't know that was even an issue.

Nkeiru: But BI, when he explained it, I was just like, that actually makes so much sense. Like why? Why doesn't something like this already exist? Mm-hmm. And if it does, because you mentioned as well, like he does have competitors, but he said like the main thing is it's more accessible. There's limits on the, like, on the plans that you have.

Nkeiru: Um, and they're very much for actors that can, some, I think he said for some of them it's like very much like if you want the best package, you have to be able to afford it. So for some, so for young [00:12:00] actors who want to get into it, who may be, you know, acting isn't something that they like studied. It's uh, uh, like didn't go to drama school, whatever, um, he said it's like limiting in that sense.

Nkeiru: Um, so yeah, so I think, like you said, like. The uses of the usage of AI is really cool and like what? It can be useful, 

Nkeiru: I feel like I've heard of that tool or maybe seen like some kind of trailer or just example use of it, or at least of the concept on Instagram. And I remember, um, the comment section was quite interesting because they were saying, you know, they're basically talking about.

Nkeiru: Okay, should or shouldn't you use like, family members for this thing? And there were loads of, um, arguments for and against. Mm. So some would say, oh, family members. They might not have like, quite literally the talent. Mm. Like, you know, I'm sure it's very disconcerting when you're trying to ask someone to read Lion to you and they're supposed to pretend to be another character, but they're really putting you out of it 'cause they're not quite there.

Nkeiru: Um, but yeah, that's, that's really interesting that you've brought that up now. Um, but yeah, again, another really interesting, uh, application of ai. A 

Nkeiru: hundred percent. Um, we're gonna go onto the next question, which is all about inclusion through innovation. So how are you ensuring that [00:13:00] children from underrepresented backgrounds get equitable access to deep tech education?

Nkeiru: So right now at three Z works with charities. Um, and these charities will bring in cohorts of children. They usually work with other youth foundations and stuff. For example, um, we work with, uh, EYC AirTrain Youth. Center, um, which is, uh, just another, um, let's say organization that looks for youth who may benefit from some of these opportunities.

Nkeiru: So, you know, we would love to go to schools as well to, you know, spread this information. Um, but there are definitely people who kind of, um, may not have access to this in any other capacity. So it's really nice and very rewarding to work with charities, uh, for in examples like this. And we also, uh, work with businesses as well.

Nkeiru: Um, but yeah, that's, that's the idea. Yeah. 

Nkeiru: That's really incredible. And I think, like you said there, it's like great to see that you're supporting like all these different communities that, um, might not have access [00:14:00] to like deep tech education or even like, understand how to use these tools. Uh, but yeah, you're ensuring that everyone, I guess, is.

Nkeiru: Being included in the innovation of tech where tech is going. 

Nkeiru: Yeah. Thank you. No, I definitely think it's super applicable, um, to many, many people. Um, so I feel like everyone should have access to this, but unfortunately it never is the case that resources are. Um, so well spread out. So 

Nkeiru: yeah, a hundred percent.

Nkeiru: Um, we're now gonna go on to Treasure Talks. What do you buy? Uh, amazing. Uh, intern of the, uh, well, one of two amazing interns we have this year from Brune, uh, who have brought, uh, a new segment for the new season. Uh, so, uh, enough from me yapping on. I'm gonna pass over to Kuru. Could we, so I'm gonna hand over the back and to, there you go.

Nkeiru: Thank you. Uh, could we know your treasured item and why you have selected this as the item you want to discuss? I bought two. Ooh. I mean, they have no to bring. I'm not, I'm not two works. I'm happy. Okay. I'm excited to see both of them. Could I know what they are? 

Nkeiru: Yes. So the first one. Is, let me [00:15:00] find it. The first one is

Nkeiru: my car keys. Okay. Why is this a treasure item? I passed my driving test last week, Friday, um, which is insane to me because it is been a very long time in the making. Mm. We are talking about, you know, getting started on my driving journey, um, before COVID, you know, so we're looking at five, six years. But, um, also on Friday I bought my first car.

Nkeiru: Mm. Um, and it was really, uh, kind of emotional to, oh, these, the keys, this, uh. This gearing. Um, it was kind of an emotional time because obviously a car is not cheap. I paid it out in full. Um, and it, something that it kind of brought to my attention was in Kiri you've been saving for many years for a goal.

Nkeiru: Mm-hmm. This goal is to buy a house. Um, but what was really useful about that is I built up a habit of saving and saving my wins and stuff. And because of that, I was able to reinvest [00:16:00] that capital into this and buy out in full. And also just the time of having taken approximately six years and a number of attempts, uh, to pass this test, it was like, wow, I could actually put my mind to it and get it done.

Nkeiru: I think it's something that, yes, some people see it as a coming of age thing, and I do, but um, it's something that I don't think maybe we give ourselves enough credit for. Um, this was, I, I can't really convey how emotional it was for me because I just really. It's like a, it's like a, wow. It's about time feeling.

Nkeiru: It's like, wow, does it finally happened? Kind of feeling. Um, and I'm still, um, regaining or gaining my confidence in driving and stuff, but it's like, it's unlocked a whole new era for me, a whole new level of freedom. Um, a whole new level of, you know, capability for me to do whatever I want. And it's like, I think that's, that's it.

Nkeiru: I unlock a new era of myself. So I definitely feel like an adult. Um, and I'm just looking forward to where this takes me. Mm. Um, I travel a lot, so again, just more access to different [00:17:00] things. Um, and I'm just really grateful for, uh, the opportunity to have this. Um, and speaking of gratefulness, this brings me to my second thing, which again, very similar.

Nkeiru: It's not quite keys, but it is a key chain of different things, sorry, different things that I get in my travels. So. I have made it to, so I'm a big traveler. Um, and I've made it a goal to get a key chain from every single place that I visited. Oh. And then put them all in this bunch. This is not all of them.

Nkeiru: So I have been to, I think 25 countries now. Wow. Um, which is really, really exciting. And I'm very privileged to be able to do that. And this reminds me of that. It reminds me of, um, you know, obviously like having to buy these, what's it called? Having to get tickets, having to save up for going on holidays or whether it's going on holidays or solo traveling, or even traveling for work.

Nkeiru: Um, and it helps me romanticize my life, I think. Um, I'm not really the type of person who has like a super [00:18:00] decorated room or anything for me. This, I don't wanna say this is enough 'cause I'd like to have a super decorated room. But, um, for me, this is a stop. This is, you know, me saying, oh wow, incur, you've made.

Nkeiru: You've made it here. Here's little keepsake for that because I also have a terrible memory. So on here we have, um, this little sequined thing from Kenya. Nice. Um, this is from Amsterdam. I went there for a Web3 conference or react conference. I haven't been to Istanbul, so I don't know why this one's here.

Nkeiru: I think someone gave it to me. Um, this is from Greece, Boston, Massachusetts. I did, uh, camp America. Um, camp America was a really, really fun experience. Um, was able to, I think I went there as a, uh, like a coding counselor. There we go. So I was teaching the kids about, um, HML Python, teaching 'em to make. This is, this just says Africa in general.

Nkeiru: I'm not sure where I got it from, but I've been to a few different countries in Africa, um, that is not, um, a country Puerto Rico. Yeah. [00:19:00] Um, yeah, that's actually not many on here. I need to put all my other ones on there. Um, but I tried to, I tried to look for them, uh, this morning before I left, um, but I couldn't find many to add on to making change.

Nkeiru: No, that's all. But yeah, I get them all separately. They're all scattered all over my room. Um, but, but yeah, I think it's just, um, a way to remind myself, wow, and ki you've come this far, you're a very privileged position. Remember that and make the most of that. Um, and yeah, it's just, just a little thing I do.

Nkeiru: That's incredible. Um, have you been to every continent? 

Nkeiru: I haven't been to Antarctica and I haven't been to Australia. Okay. Or Oceana. Yeah. Um, my parents have been to Antarctica. That's pretty fun. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, I think my, my mom might have been to every continent. Wow. But myself, not yet.

Nkeiru: Okay. It's coming. It's coming. It's 

Nkeiru: coming. Um, this may be difficult to say. Okay. Do you have a favorite country that you've traveled to? And if so, which one? 

Nkeiru: Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Um, [00:20:00] I loved India. Okay. I loved India a lot. Um, I dunno, there's something about it. One thing, one of my takeaways from India is I love meat.

Nkeiru: I'm very convos. Mm-hmm. Like, if I could just have me every day hours. So when my mom was like, Kira, do you want to go to in jail saying. Well, maybe because although it's like, um, uh, it has an amazing, vibrant culture, I was just hyper aware of the, uh, cultural tradition of not eating beef, for example. So I, for some reason just thought that I was, it was only gonna be vegetarian dishes all over the place.

Nkeiru: Very ignorant view. Um, but you know, I went and yes, there was a lot of vegetarian cuisine, but it was so good. Like it was so good, so well seasoned. I love the people. They were extremely accommodating. Loved where we stayed. We visited many different places, obviously the Taj Han, uh, the Pink City, Stan, um, and a few rural villages as well.

Nkeiru: Oh wow. And it was just really, really interesting and very, um, just really. [00:21:00] Insightful mm-hmm. To see how other people, you know, live, obviously. Mm-hmm. I think travel is the highest form of education. Mm-hmm. Um, you just put yourself in people's shoes quite literally. Mm. Um, and you're able to just experience things from their perspective.

Nkeiru: Mm. So I loved India for what it was. I also love hot countries. So hot countries, good food, good people. It was one of my favorite experiences. That's 

Nkeiru: incredible. Um, I don't know what you mean about like, educate, like going to countries travel, being like a form of education. 'cause I know, uh, last year my sister and I went to Lisbon and it wasn't time.

Nkeiru: We literally like got there, went to like a local like shop and they were just like, oh, are you coming to the festival today? And we were just like, what do you mean? And they were just like, oh. Uh, so in Lisbon, uh, I did not know this, but this is a, a true festival. Uh, it happens I think in the, either the first or second week of June, every, so everyone in each of the districts of Lisbon.

Nkeiru: Can essentially submit, I think as an application, but they basically, a group of people will get married. It's a part to do what their saint, uh, I forgot what the saint's name is, but there's a saint of, uh, of Lisbon and [00:22:00] that saint to celebrate him, they have like a whole day festival. So each district will do like their own thing.

Nkeiru: They do street parties, there's music, there's dancing. At the very end, they do a whole massive parade through the city center. Cool. And it's like a lot. So each local schools will like design stuff. So each district will have like a school that will design like, I don't know, like whatever that district is known for, that's what they would design.

Nkeiru: Uh, I won't try and equ it to the bars in London 'cause people may get at me if I say certain bars are known for certain things. Um, but yeah, they do it like that. And then what happens is, as a part of the parade, I think it's seven couples. Essentially get married all on the same day. Aw. They're basically, they're like the city celebrities, so they get paraded through the city, like with, uh, like the mayors there, they go through like it's the mayor, like all the official people.

Nkeiru: And then they go in like through the street with like the seven, like the seven couples go through. And then the following morning they all get married at like this, I thought the church is called, there's a big church in Lisbon. They all get married there. It's all like one service with all of these people.

Nkeiru: I don't know how big the church is to accommodate all of their family and friends or if they have [00:23:00] to limit it. Good point. Um, but yeah, they literally bring 'em all there and then yeah, literally they all get married on the same day. They get photos, they get, but it's a yearly festival. So going there and like experiencing it, like we didn't plan to, but like the street party was great.

Nkeiru: Seeing the like actual, like festival itself was really cool and different schools and literally, like we said, like we had no idea that this festival existed. And literally if it wasn't for that person, we probably wouldn't have even known. That's so nice. Again, a great 

Nkeiru: example of just putting yourself in another person's shoes and culture and stuff.

Nkeiru: That sounds like it would've been a really good time. A 

Nkeiru: hundred percent. Uh, before we move to the next question. I haven't asked Dream Place to go to that you haven't been to yet? 

Nkeiru: Hmm. That I haven't been to yet. Um, okay. Okay. Um, I've got two, go ahead. Okay. For opposite reasons actually. Oh, okay. One is, uh, Romania.

Nkeiru: Um, I believe it's quite cold though actually. I don't remember. But, um, I'd like to go for the spa, the spa culture, relaxation, chillness, chill [00:24:00] vibe. Um, and then on the opposite, um, Thailand, which is very energetic. Um, I work a hundred percent remotely, so I know they have a huge digital nomad culture there as well.

Nkeiru: So Thailand, Singapore, um, complete opposite vibe, very hot. Um, high energy, definitely full of like youth and youngsters and people trying to do something or become someone. And you know, I feel like that's where I'd really fit in. So, uh, two places, opposite reasons, but definitely places I'd love to go to.

Nkeiru: It's 

Nkeiru: incredible. Yeah. Well, wonderful. Let's go on to the next question, uh, which is building bridges in tech. So what advice would you give for students or young professionals looking to explore or maybe to even pivot into emerging tech spaces like AI or Web3? 

Nkeiru: Ooh. Okay. So other than getting in touch with Web3, um, I think the biggest obstacle for these two, um, these two tools or, uh, yeah, tools, especially Web3, is lack of like resources and access.

Nkeiru: And [00:25:00] you may say, okay, but there's so many courses and stuff in this thing. Um, a lot of these courses still depend on like a technical understanding of certain computer science concepts. Um, and I think. The way to overcome that is just to get practical experience. Um, I remember a few years ago I was going to a lot of, uh, Web3 hackathons, hackathons in general and then Web3 ones.

Nkeiru: And it was so crazy 'cause I'd never coded anything on the blockchain or in a blockchain language. Um, so I was like, why am I even going to this? Like, what am I gonna do? But the fact that I even went to this hackathon and exposed myself to these, uh, these people, these program pro, ah, sorry, programmatical tools, um, and all these things I learned so much.

Nkeiru: Um, so I think getting yourself out there and trying to kind of ignore the obstacles, it's what's going to get you just enough knowledge to, uh, you know, get your foot in the door. 

Jeffrey: Hundred percent. 

Nkeiru: Um, so practical things like, um, these, these hackathons, maybe boot camps, practical projects, guided projects. I think those are really good ways to [00:26:00] get your initial understanding because the theory can come later.

Nkeiru: Um, the theory can come later. Um, and I think a practical understanding, knowing how to do it. 

Jeffrey: Mm-hmm. 

Nkeiru: Can sometimes carry more weight than knowing why it works sometimes. Not always, but 

Nkeiru: sometimes. No, that's really great. Um, and yeah, that really links to our, um, our mic check, which is an interesting fact figure or story related to the topic of the today.

Nkeiru: Um, we have a report from, uh, technicians slash tech, UK's diversity report in 2023, which says that only 50% of the UK tech workforce are from Bain backgrounds and women make up just 19% of the tech sector. And it really highlights like a significant gap in representation for both groups. Uh, but it also shows the importance of, uh, resources like yourself, um, helping to bridge that gap with creating easy and accessible education platforms and especially.

Nkeiru: Getting in at like an early age because, uh, everyone knows, uh, you know, if you want to like, [00:27:00] like every, uh, I wouldn't say every father, 'cause my dad wasn't pushing me to do football, but if you want your son to be a football or your daughter to be a footballer, um, everyone knows that you have to get them training football as soon as they can start to kick a ball.

Nkeiru: Um, so as you've mentioned, like getting in early and like with through the work you're doing with Web3 Z, like getting in early to teach about like digital, like tools that they can use and like making a clear understanding because I haven't really, I didn't touch on it, but it's a fair point to mention is that like young people, especially of that age may not really get what AI is, but it's definitely gonna impact them when they get to like university or even like a career stage because, you know, we're seeing how it's impacting people.

Nkeiru: Now, as you mentioned, there's definitely like different ideas of what I a AI means to people. For some people it's like the Terminator or the Matrix. For some people it's um. I know we've discussed this game, uh, cyberpunk, if you haven't, great game. Uh, I will always be recommending books, games, mm-hmm. TV shows to you.

Nkeiru: Uh, but some, it's like, there's the [00:28:00] bridge between those two things. And this is very random, but I've been trying to find a way to plug this into a podcast episode, and this is the greatest time I can do it. Um, but if you watch the new Superman film, I don't. Have you watched the New Super? I haven't yet, no.

Nkeiru: Okay. Um, I would, it doesn't ruin the film, but it described, uh, James Gunn described Lex Luther's relationship to Superman. As he said, the way Lex Luther sees Superman is the way creatives see ai. And he said that Lex Luther isn't. It's not that he like, I guess he necessarily hates Superman, but it's more like he's just like what Superman represents and what he essentially does as existing for humanity in the film, he's basically saying he's putting us at a stage where we're like vulnerable.

Nkeiru: So he's like all of, you're just like, you know, becoming lazy. You're like, oh, we don't need to worry 'cause Superman's gonna save us. Uh, there's actually a, it's not in the film, but there's a wild comic book where literally Lex Luther goes out of his way to basically force Superman to not be able to save someone, to basically prove a point that like there's a overdependence of [00:29:00] like, people being like, oh, my days, like, I don't know, there's been an accident.

Nkeiru: Superman's gonna come and save them. He was just like, I'm gonna cause this. I'm then gonna distract Superman. And then he basically calls the Superman to go somewhere else. The person's like, uh, I think it's their brother passes away. They end up hating Superman because of it. But yeah, that's what I mean, like this man's level of pettiness is like.

Nkeiru: Outta this world. Wow. Um, but yeah, no, so as, as I mentioned like with ai, I think sometimes people have that like fear, and I think, like you said, like addressing that at such a young age encourages people that it's not necessarily something to be bad. You know, I tell people that we use AI tools, uh, you, you even, you might not even notice it.

Nkeiru: It's being used right now because, uh, all these cool cuts that are happening throughout the episodes and most of the episodes that happen on this channel, uh, I don't do a cool AI tool, uh, called Auto Pod. So if you're doing podcasting, uh, I would definitely recommend that. But yeah, I, I see it as that it is something that helps me to ease the editing process, you know, before trying to do all the cuts with.

Nkeiru: Multiple cameras was a lot. It took me a lot of time and a lot of effort, um, and was quite straining. Particularly as we've discussed. Sometimes tech [00:30:00] doesn't work the way you want it to, but having tools like Auto Pod makes the process like go from like several days to like hours. So I can, if I lock in, I can get, and especially with episodes that I'm in, I don't need to listen back and, you know, make sure I roughly know what, how the conversation goes.

Nkeiru: So I can just get episodes done and I don't know, like have an episode. I, I think the quickest I did, it was a one hour episode in maybe. 30 minutes. Um, 'cause auto pod just like cut it all up. I just got rid of the bits that it didn't need. Uh, but then by the time I like sent it over to the guests, like I did it in an evening and the person was just like, I thought you told me it was gonna take a week.

Nkeiru: I was like, yeah, but you know. Yeah. Well, it, it, it's all done. Um, so yeah, I agree with you that having tools like that really helps to like address the process and Yeah. It's a good thing to be aware of. Um, we've gone to the last question before we go to passing the mic where you get to ask me a question or series of questions, uh, about anything and everything.

Nkeiru: Uh, but looking to the future, what do you think the education system can learn from platforms like Web3 Z when it comes to preparing students for tomorrow's 

Nkeiru: careers? [00:31:00] Hmm. I think,

Nkeiru: I think, okay. I know what I want to say. I just dunno how to say it. I think

Nkeiru: a lot of these tools that we say are kind of like tomorrow are, they come up a lot faster than, as I mentioned, um, when I was younger there wasn't a web easy. I knew about AI back then. Mm-hmm. Um, yes, I might have thought of it as robots, but I knew about the concept of ai but that was only because I was interested in it and I had so much time to spend at home online looking for things.

Nkeiru: 'cause I couldn't go out like I was all in the tech space. Mm. And so that's the only way I knew about it. And then fast forward, maybe just under 10 years later, AI is now at our fingertips. 

Nkeiru: Mm. 

Nkeiru: Um, I think the same can be said for a lot of. Uh, technologies that are out there right now, including Web3, blockchain, quantum computing especially.

Nkeiru: Mm-hmm. Uh, these things have been out four years mm-hmm. [00:32:00] For decades. Especially in like the sense of quantum computing even. Um, and it's only now that they're beginning to become commercialized. And when I say now, I mean now in the next few, um, next few years, I'd say, I think what these institutions can learn is to not wait.

Nkeiru: Mm. I'm seeing like lots of AI courses coming out this year, last year, maybe the year before that. But there was so much time to discuss this, uh, to get people up in it. You have, um, companies looking for blockchain developers and paying them six figures at entry level because no one knows what blockchain is or how to use it.

Nkeiru: We could've, like, we could have, um, started teaching that earlier. And yes, maybe there is a market in that, um, for, you know, you want the people who know about it already. Sure, fine. But there are many more people who can also benefit from this, whether that's in a personal context or a professional context.

Nkeiru: Like, okay, I'm, I know about blockchain now, now I can go and get a job in blockchain. Or maybe they want to use blockchain for their own startup or their own ideas, dah, dah, dah, dah. Um, and I think unless [00:33:00] people know about these tools earlier, we are not going to get innovation and what innovation is. Is basically education being passed down and people coming up with new ideas.

Nkeiru: But if the education's not being passed down, we're not learning anything new. We are just using the information that we have already. And it's, it's just less likely that we have that spark of an idea. Um, so I think to foster curiosity and creativity in kids, we need to teach them things that they don't already know.

Nkeiru: Mm. 

Nkeiru: Um, and usually that is things like, you know, these emerging technologies. Mm. Even if we, let's, let's dial it back a bit. As you're entering, um, as you're entering maybe year seven, you probably don't know how to cook at home, but, um, classes like food tech, um, introduce you on ways to make Shepherds Pie or something.

Nkeiru: They teach you how to use an oven that's new, that's novel. And for the most part, you've probably remembered how to turn on a generic oven from back in year seven or eight. Yeah. Because it was so new. We now know, okay, yeah, I can turn on an oven and I can also make [00:34:00] a cake. Actually, I don't always have to look at re a recipe book to be like, oh yeah, this probably needs 180 degrees.

Nkeiru: I've learned, I've developed, I've, uh, worked on that skill of cooking, dah, dah, dah. And I think it's the exact same when it comes to teaching of tech. 

Nkeiru: Yeah. 

Nkeiru: Um, so yeah, unless people start learning about what's already out there, they're not gonna know what's out there. Like you don't know what you don't know kind of thing.

Nkeiru: Yeah. Uh. 

Nkeiru: Yeah, man. Like I said, I'm, I'm learning a lot in this episode and, uh, feeling more uninspired by the moment. Um, but thank you for that. And I think, like you said, I think like you said at the end, uh, you don't want, you don't know what you don't know. Um, so yeah, this is your, uh, opportunity. We will be saying how you can find out more about Web3 z, uh, and connect with some of the events, whether you are a school, whether you are an investor, whether you're a charity.

Nkeiru: Uh, this is your, there will be an opportunity for you to find out more information in just a minute. But, uh, we will be going on to our next segment, which is passing the mic. So, uh, as I always joke, I'm not physically passing the mic, but instead, uh, in crew. What is the question or questions you'd like to ask me?

Nkeiru: Anything and everything at [00:35:00] the floor is yours. Okay. There's two. 

Nkeiru: Okay. I'm gonna start with my superficial one. 

Nkeiru: Okay. 

Nkeiru: Which is, where did you get your necklace? Where I, I've been like, I just love it. It's two things that also mean a lot to me as well. Two icons. So tell me more about it. Uh, 

Nkeiru: uh, this, uh, I, I honest, so I know the, so the Africa, so actually let me go back.

Nkeiru: Put context is they're actually two separate necklaces. Okay. So the Africa part was, uh, the shop is closed. Uh, but I will shout out another shop that does it. Uh, they are, they're both on the program that I support. Uh, they're called Isa, a Nigerian owned, uh, jewelry brand. Uh, they, I don't have it on, but I, funnily enough, wear it all the time.

Nkeiru: And now realizing I should have worn it today. 'cause actually I had two, both of my podcast recordings today were both of Nigerians. Um, but they have a Nigeria one, so the one they have in Nigeria, it's got the three rivers, um, on it. And it's got like. Uh, different like etchings of different cities in Nigeria.

Nkeiru: So it's got like a bja. It's got canu and it's got like, yeah, I think maybe one more. [00:36:00] Uh, but then it's also, there's also one with all the like, different states in Nigeria. So I, so the company that does this unfortunately is shut, but I would say asura if you want. Uh, like a hollow out Africa. They also do African necklaces as well.

Nkeiru: It's not like Netflix, the earrings and I think a ring. But they also do stuff. They also have their own like crosses. And Mary pendants, my sister has a Mary pendant as well. Uh, the cross actually is from a friend, so, uh, a good friend of the podcast and he's, uh, supported pick up the mic since it started.

Nkeiru: Uh, and he's a good friend of mine with Samuel. He went to Italy, uh, and he knows that I'm Christian. So we, the, the reason why it's funny is because we. We have a tendency to always forget. So we buy each other presents for Christmas and our birthdays, but we have a tendency to either not meet up around our birthdays or Christmas or completely forget.

Nkeiru: So we'll meet up, but then we'll be like, yeah, the present was at home. So we both forgotten it. Uh, so we always bring it up to the next like time we meet up. So he got this, I think he went to Italy like ages ago, but then we didn't meet up. I think he wanted to give this to me as my birthday with a book.

Nkeiru: So, uh, [00:37:00] he got me a book, got me this, uh, and then like, he was just like, yeah, you know, like this is your gift. And I was like, thank you so much. So I've actually, so when I was thinking about like what necklace I put this on, I was like, I don't really know, like, uh, does it go with the Nigeria necklace? I go with this does go that.

Nkeiru: And then basically this necklace by itself in my room is like hanging separately, like in my shelf. So I was like, oh, well this is gold. This is gold. Like, let's put them together. And like you said, they're both very much important aspects to me. And I would say encompass me like who I am as an individual.

Nkeiru: So yeah, that's basically the, the, the answer. They're two separate things, but um, yeah, they're both. They both represent sides of me, so. 

Nkeiru: Oh, excellent. Oh, I love that. Shout out to Samuel and Sur. 

Nkeiru: Uh, and your second question that you wanted to ask my 

Nkeiru: second question, so you mentioned earlier that you're not, um, very, not that you're not technical mm-hmm.

Nkeiru: But that you're not in the tech space or you're not up to date. Mm-hmm. So what is the kind of latest thing that you've heard that you're interested in? 

Jeffrey: Ooh. 

Nkeiru: It can be technical in any aspect. It doesn't have to be [00:38:00] like deeply technical, but even it's just a concept or a tool or some kind of news thing.

Nkeiru: It might even be fake news, but what is something that you think is on the horizon that you're excited about? 

Nkeiru: Ooh,

Nkeiru: that's a good question. That's very good. I have not been asked this before. This is a good question. Um. Okay, I'm gonna go with three. Oh, okay. Uh, one is, so you won't be able to see it 'cause it's one of the cameras, but so the camera that is recording in Karu, that is called the DJ I Osmo, Osmo Pocket three, um, is run by a company called DJ.

Nkeiru: I, uh, this camera, well this camera company I love because they are about longevity. So this camera came out, I think, I couldn't even tell you the year, maybe like 2022 or 2021. But they basically update it for like a long, like repeatedly. Uh, and what's really cool with it is this camera, um, so like the biggest difference between the [00:39:00] second one and the third one is this can go to 4K.

Nkeiru: So a lot of people have been saying, oh, you know, when is the number four gonna come out? What's the number four gonna do? Some people have said, maybe it's gonna do like track like this one tracks, but like, I think they were saying like, maybe it's gonna allow you to like. Plug it into like switchboards so you can like, you know, someone remotely who's recording can do like auto cuts of it.

Nkeiru: Some people are thinking, you know, it might, I dunno, like. Maybe recorded, this is in 4K, some people are thinking it might do eight K. Um, but this camera to me is amazing. And what's great is for me, even though like the two has been out for like when the three came out, they still released updates for the two.

Nkeiru: Um, this like, when the four comes out, I'm not necessarily gonna like, it's not like a phone or like with other tech where there's like new releases or even like generally other cameras where it's like always new releases with this. Like I probably won't buy the four for like a, maybe not even a tool because like it does its job, it does its job and it's really good.

Nkeiru: So yeah, the whatever the DJ I Osmo Pocket four does, I think that's what I'm interested in. Um, no one, [00:40:00] well, to my knowledge, no one knows when it's coming out. Everyone's got different rumors and theories and stuff like that, but I would say that, um, it's one that's already out. But I, second one is one that's already out, but it's one that I think more companies will implement.

Nkeiru: So it is it, if money was an, if I had unlimited money, I would buy this in a heartbeat. Um, it is called the, so they're the people who do, uh, it's under my shirt, so I'll show. But essentially there's this company right here, uh, on the receiver, uh, road. So they have this thing called the road Cast, the video, which is essentially, it's like a switchboard for if you're doing recordings.

Nkeiru: Uh, but the reason why I love it is because it has, it's the only one that I know that does, uh, so it uses AI tools to do the switches if you don't have someone with you. So, as I mentioned, like currently all the switches that happened have happened in this recording. Um, all the pickup, the mic recordings happen post edit, but this is like a live one.

Nkeiru: So you literally plug in like, uh, three cameras. Uh, you can plug in as many cameras as you want to it. Uh, and then you plug in as many microphones as well. [00:41:00] And then basically based on audio levels, video and visual cues, the software will be like, okay, cool. So like Jeffrey speaking, the camera's now on Jeffrey.

Nkeiru: So that would be that camera and crew speaking. Camera's on and crew, they're both talking camera's on both of them. So it's the only one that I've seen that does that. But I think because of that, I think more companies will try and implement that to their switchboards for like recordings. Because to me it's, it was like, when I saw that, I was just like, that's really interesting because.

Nkeiru: Like the biggest thing that I like, not every podcaster has someone to support on like the backend. And even the ones that do like have it, they might not necessarily be people in their team. It might be like a freelancer that they've hired to support them in that capacity. But I was like, it's a really interesting concept because the biggest issue, like for me personally, sometimes with the recordings is I'm the only one that's available.

Nkeiru: So I'm the one who has to like, make sure all the text and all this stuff. But yeah, they're literally just like, literally like set up a screen, plug the screen into the switchboard, plug the cameras into the, and the mics into the switchboard. And then literally like while we're recording, I can see like if we were doing, if I was using it right now, I can just look over it and I could see like, okay, there's [00:42:00] camera's definitely on me, cameras on in crew and you are talking, uh, cameras on both of us when we are like both talking or laughing or stuff like that.

Nkeiru: Uh, and then, yeah, I can see it and I can be like, cool, this is working perfectly. So I think that's gonna change how podcasting is done. Um, so that would be number two. Uh, number three, uh, tech changes. Hmm. It is one. No, I won't say that one 'cause it's been out for a while. It's one that I like, but I, I'll shout out.

Nkeiru: But one that I like that I know more people have started to do was Xbox, uh, basically have this thing called Game Pass. Um, do, do you, do you know Yeah, I'm familiar. Are perfect. Uh, uh, for anyone at home who's not familiar, uh, it is basically Xbox give you, you pay a certain amount per month, you get unlimited access to certain games.

Nkeiru: Sometimes those are like, you know, you can only play it for a serious amount of time. If it's a Xbox, like owned, like either Xbox producer game or they own the companies that do, it's on there forever. But to me, when that came out, that was a really unique model because what, I mean, the price has also jumped up, so I know people are complaining [00:43:00] about that.

Nkeiru: But like, when it started, I think it was like only 5 99 a month, and you got access to like, loads of games. And now the Xbox have like bought Activision. Uh, so they own Activision. Oh, they did like a, uh, obsidian, uh, who are the. Ah, he, he does fall, uh, Bethesda, uh, Bethesda Love 

Nkeiru: Bethesda. 

Nkeiru: Um, and like, so for me it's great 'cause like there's all these games that like, I didn't necessarily always play before or like, I've been like, ah, I'll play it eventually.

Nkeiru: But having access to like a free library is great and I like it because I can do it on my laptop, I can play it on my Xbox. I actually, yeah, all of that stuff's great. Yeah. Uh, shout at that. The thing that I actually say is. Probably the top of the three, which has been announced. It's supposed to come out this fall.

Nkeiru: My brother and I are desperate to get it. As soon as it does drop is Xbox are doing a handheld console. 

Nkeiru: Okay. I've heard of it. 

Nkeiru: So it's, I think it's called X Xbox. I think it's like with Republic of Gaming. It's called the Xbox. ROG or R? Yeah, I think it's ROG Ally. It's a handheld device. Now for me, this is [00:44:00] great one because it allows me to play Xbox Games on the go, but they are partnering with Steam.

Nkeiru: So Steam will be embedded onto this Xbox handheld device. Okay. Which people might be like, why is this good, is great. 'cause you get access to PCE games, but Xbox have found the perfect loop for Xbox Player. 'cause as an Xbox player, my biggest issue is I'm also a Marvel fan. So all the Spider-Man games, I have to wait until they come on PC to play.

Nkeiru: I can't play on my Xbox. But because Xbox and now partnering with Steam, there's also been an agreement with Sony. So now through this handheld device, which has steam on it. Xbox players can play any Sony exclusive with their STEAM account on an Xbox device. Uh, so I'm waiting and holiday this year. Uh, if my family, uh, or siblings are watching, uh, you know, Christmas present, uh, I was, this is it.

Nkeiru: Uh, but yeah, literally like that was so me and my brother were like hearing rumors about this. People saying, you know, Xbox have been thinking about how could they compete with this switch. You know, the switch. I think the switch, the original [00:45:00] switch was the fastest selling console of all time. The Switch two, I think has now beaten it.

Nkeiru: Oh. So, so yeah. So people were thinking like, how, you know, what is Xbox gonna do? What's Sony gonna do? And I think people were surprised with the Steam thing 'cause they were thinking, okay, Xbox could partner with Steam, but you know, Sony might want be like, we are focused on in like, you know, keeping our exclusives off Xbox devices, you know, that defeats the competition.

Nkeiru: But, uh, when it happened, like they were just like, no, like we're partnering. So Xbox has an agreement that some Xbox exclusives will go onto Sony devices. So, uh, within recent, I think the one recently was the, um. Was grounded, which is a really cool, like, uh, you can play a single player, but it's uh, you can do a coop online with four people.

Nkeiru: Basically. It's like, honey, I shrunk the kids. So you are stuck in like a park. You shrunk down and you fight like animals and you basically have to silver you fight buds. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely recommend. Um, uh, and then what's the other one? Uh, Indiana Jones and the great, is it the Great circle, the Goldens, I think it's a great circle, but Indiana Jones game that Bethesda made, that is a great game.

Nkeiru: I would recommend, even if you're not a big Indiana Jones fan, that is a fun Bethesda [00:46:00] game. I'm looking forward to all the stuff that they do that um, uh, where was I going with? Yeah, but I think everyone was surprised because they were just like, oh, Xbox and Sony, they're clearly competitors and I think, uh, Phil Spencer, who I'm probably gonna get this man's job title wrong, um, but I think he is the CEO of Xbox.

Nkeiru: Um, he basically was interviewed, I think last year and he said he sees the future of gaming. Being less exclusive and more cross collaboration between gaming companies. And I think this was a clear example of how it's gonna work. And I wonder, there have been some people who do like gaming influencers who've joke that like, this is also like getting Nintendo to think about like, what do we do?

Nkeiru: 'cause I also get what the argument is. 'cause the argument is Nintendo devices, like I have a switch. The only reason I got the switch was because I was like, I have missed playing a Pokemon game for so long. I would love to play a Pokemon game and got a switch. But outside of that, most games and apart from Lego games, but that's usually 'cause they're on a sale and they're like super cheap on the switch.

Nkeiru: Um, I don't play like I'm playing either on my Xbox, uh, PC or my [00:47:00] laptop. So for me it was really interesting that happened because a lot of people are saying Now we're Sony partnering in Xbox in this way. This is making Nintendo. Think about like. How exclusive Sure. Are games be on our devices because, you know, if we keep, like their main thing is keeping, you know, Mario Kart, um, uh, well, Mario Kart Pokemon on their devices and making it exclusive.

Nkeiru: You can't get it anywhere else. But people have been saying if other games are like now moving, like it's Sony in, especially Sony, Microsoft are agreeing to work in this aspect, what is gonna be. Nintendo's, like unique selling point to counter that. So it's a lot of like interesting things, man. That would be my, like my, my top like, which is happen.

Nkeiru: Well, it's happening. I'm hoping it doesn't get delayed. But yeah, that would be my like, main thing. 'cause I'm super excited for it. 

Nkeiru: I knew about the, uh, Xbox console that's coming out. I didn't know about these game company agreements. Yeah. So that's really cool. Yeah, because it's always a hassle when, um, you know, I'm not able to play other games with my friends.

Nkeiru: Um, or like even cross-platform, like cross-platform gaming, um, is a big issue for [00:48:00] me. But it would be really nice if we could get some more cross collaboration, um, between the game companies so that I will look into when I get home. Mm. 

Nkeiru: I would like generally, uh, me and my brother watched the export conference over the summer and as soon as it like came up, he was just like, we need to get this, we need to get this.

Nkeiru: And I was just like, yes, I completely agree. So, yeah, I, if, if I do get it and, and we do, I might do a little video on our gaming channel about it. So keep an eye out for that on pick up the controller, more information about that at the end. Um, but yeah, no, that would be, those would be my like three, like in, ah, I have a fourth one that I could do about my other interests of gaming and anime, uh, not gaming, anime, uh, uh, like comics and sci-fi and anime.

Nkeiru: Um, not really. There isn't really one that I know of is that one in comics. Not really. I mean, there, there's one that my brother uses, but like it's, [00:49:00] I know people have their opinions of track GPT, but he has used track GPT to basically almost do like RPGs and like tv sh like comic book TV shows and stuff as like a role playing thing.

Nkeiru: So he's just like, oh, like, I don't know what the problem was, and if you really definitely want it, you can put a comment. I can send it to you. Um, but yeah, he was just like, oh, hey, I just like was playing around with chat g bt to just like see what it could do. And I found out that I could like build like a whole RRP g around like TV shows and films that I was interested in.

Nkeiru: So be like, that's pretty cool. Yeah, it would be like, imagine, I don't know, I, uh, I know both into anime as well, so it would be like, imagine, uh, I am, do you know about my hero? Yeah. Academia. So yeah, it'd be like, imagine I'm in my hero academia. Uh, I am. I don't know, like my own character, this is my quirk, uh, this is what I'm doing.

Nkeiru: I would love to, you know, create an RP g experience based on this. And tell me, like, run a traditional rpg. So like if, for anyone who's into gaming and loves RPGs, we're talking about like old school RPGs where it's like just text based, just text base. You're just like, oh, you [00:50:00] know, do you go down the left door, the right door?

Nkeiru: Um, even, I think I saw someone did like Tech Space, but they did it with like, uh, they used out GVT to basically do like dice rolls. So like very much like Dungeons and Dragons, um, which. I've said it and it's gonna happen. 'cause I found out they do it in my workplace, I will be doing a Dungeons and Dragon.

Nkeiru: 'cause I've been trying to do it Yeah. For the longest. So I'll be there. Yeah, yeah. I'll be there. I'll be there. Because I've generally, when I tell you this is a massive tangent, but it's so important. I have been trying to get in a Dungeons and Dragons. 'cause I've, I like, I know people a campaign. Yeah. I've, I know people who do it.

Nkeiru: And I was like, oh, sick. She, I've been trying to organize one. I know we've got friends on the podcast and that do it as well. And I was like, look, if you wanna do it, I'm ready. I've waiting for a campaign. When I, and then literally today was meeting someone just talking about like what we, or like what I do, I pick up the mic and he was just like, oh, you know, there's this group, they do like a magic, they gathering like, like meet up.

Nkeiru: And I was like, oh, sick. That's cool. I know about Magic Gathering, like I'm interested. But I was like, I'm gonna be real with you. Tell me is Dungeon, new Dragon [00:51:00] on the table? And he's like, oh yeah, obviously. And I was like. Yeah. Had me there. Oh, great. Um, so yeah, uh, I, I'll let you know, I've never done a campaign before.

Nkeiru: I'm very much in I, my long, well, I wouldn't say my long term dream, but I would love to be a dungeon master. Really? Yeah. I think it'd be fun. Um, I've seen their, what are they, I think it's called Dimension 20. They're like an American group. Yeah, they're an American group. Um, they do like, live, like, they have like a show where they do like campaigns together, but they also do like live shows in America of it.

Nkeiru: Um, and I know, uh, in one game of the year last year, it's an incredible game. If you haven't played it, I would recommend all this. Gate three. Uh, uh, yeah. The Actors of Borders Gate three through, uh, who some people don't like 'cause they're owned by. So the people who do the Dun the Dragons are a company called Wizards of.

Nkeiru: Is it something coast and they're owned by Hasbro and there there's a lot of people have their own opinions about them. My brother's not the biggest fan, but uh, essentially like the actors [00:52:00] who the voice actors of the like main cast. Um, and your companions. They do their own Dungeons and Dragon campaign of themselves.

Nkeiru: Like of the Yeah. Which is really fun. That's pretty cool meta. Yeah. And it's like so cool to like do. Uh, and then one final shout out, 'cause I've clearly gone on my Dungeons and Dragons, uh, tangent is, um, there's a show on, uh, what is this show called? Uh, Vox Muck, the Legend of Vox Makana. It's on Amazon Prime.

Nkeiru: Uh, I don't dunno if you've watched it. I haven't heard of that one. I would definitely recommend, especially if you're interested, it is so sitting in the Dungeon, the Dragons world, um, it, it doesn't use the same 'cause it's basically like a TV show, so they don't do like the dice world and stuff. 'cause it, it doesn't make sense.

Nkeiru: But, uh, the voice actors for that whole show, they also have a show where they play their characters, but they do like campaigns of like random stuff. Um, so yeah. So for me it's really funny to like see because it's like, oh, hey look, this is like, I guess people who. You know, some of them like didn't know about Dun and Dragon before, some of them did, but they're like, bring everyone together and they're like doing Dungeons and [00:53:00] Dragons, like, um, like together as a group.

Nkeiru: And then one final thing, 'cause this just came into my head when I was talking about it, is I haven't watched this podcast. I recommend if you don't dunno about Dun and Dragon or you interested, uh, I won't do it 'cause I don't remember how the person did it. And to be fair, I think she did it better than I did.

Nkeiru: But if you've ever watched Daredevil, uh, whether it's Daredevil Born Again or the original, like three series on Netflix, uh, the person I've forgotten, I think her name is, I, I know her first name is Deborah. But, uh, the person who plays Karen in it, uh, so Daredevil's love interest. From Stephanie, at least the first two seasons.

Nkeiru: Um, she is a massive Dungeons and Dragons fan, and with the guy, I think his name is John Bethal, who plays The Punisher. She, so he was just like, I, so he has a podcast. She came onto his podcast. He was like, she was like, oh, do you know about Dungeons and Dragons? And she was, he was just like, I've heard of it, I don't really know.

Nkeiru: I've never played it. And she was like, we can literally play it right now. So she even shows like how conversationally, like you can have it. So she set the tone. She was just like, imagine, you know, like, what do you wanna be? Do you wanna be a warrior, a maid, a rogue? And she's like, imagine you walked into an area, like do, do you go left or right?

Nkeiru: This and that. Um, and [00:54:00] it was interesting 'cause like she basically was saying like, you don't need to have like a book and all of this stuff. You can literally just. In a conversation, do a Dungeons and Dragons. That sounds interesting. I don't remember what his podcast is called, but if you type in, like, even if, I'm pretty sure if you put like John Beal Dungeons and Dragons and her name, it should appear with the clip.

Nkeiru: Um, but yeah, that is my long tangent done. Uh, but yeah, those would be my tech, uh, things that I'm interested in that are coming that in the future. 

Nkeiru: Mm, that's so cool. Well, many things to unpack there. And I suppose the industry, especially for the first year, was centered definitely around, you know, content creation and stuff.

Nkeiru: So, um, not what I was expecting, but also, you know, it wouldn't be, 'cause we work in two different areas, so Yeah. That, that's really cool. It's insightful for me to know what's kind of coming out in those, uh, fields as well. Cool. Thank you for sharing. No, you're very welcome. Any 

Nkeiru: other questions or? 

Nkeiru: No, but I think, I think whilst you were talking, I was also thinking, you know, how would I answer that question?

Nkeiru: What, what am I looking for? Yes, yes, yes, please. And I think from time to time, I'm definitely like. [00:55:00] Asking myself in here, would you or would you not get a NewRelic? Like would you or would you not allow this chip to be installed in your brain? Um, you know, they can give all the privacy policies they want to, but what's, what's the reality of it going to be?

Nkeiru: And, you know, it's obviously been trailed on humans already, um, but, you know, not long enough for us to find short term and long term effects of that. Um, you know, I think you can read dreams and now, now I'm not sure if I'm still talking about Neur Neuralink, if I'm still definitely talking about biotechnology in general.

Nkeiru: And it's just really interesting to see how far biotechnology goes. You know, you have people controlling, um, computer mice with their brainwaves, like, this is, this is so cool. And then even, even for people who, you know, that that kind of technology is very useful for people who have lost motor functionality.

Nkeiru: But even for people who have not had that. Even like these AI sunglasses, uh, AI glasses and stuff, bringing this, uh, technology to the average consumer, it's like, wow. There's, there's so [00:56:00] much to unpack here because there's also an ethical question here. If you can just record anything that you're seeing, you can record everything that you're seeing.

Nkeiru: So that's kind of crazy. Um, so you have like things around consent and stuff and what you do with these materials. Um, so much to seize, like our world is really changing whether we like it or not, which I think is another reason why people should really learn about these emerging technologies and how others are using them.

Nkeiru: Unfortunately, there it comes to a stage where you can no longer run away from using them, um, because otherwise the world will evolve without 

Nkeiru: you understand. 

Nkeiru: So, um, yeah, just a interesting tidbit. I think that's what I'm battling with. Yeah. The idea. 

Nkeiru: No, I think that's fair. I think, like you said, like, um, and it's interesting 'cause uh, someone.

Nkeiru: I don't, I remember where I saw it, but people always talk about like how also like, um, like TV shows and films also influence that conversation about like, especially when it comes to stuff like the Neuralink, because you've got, uh, I'm trying to think. There was actually a Black Mirror episode about, I forgot which episode it is and I forgot which season, but there was one about like someone [00:57:00] getting, no, there's, I don't think it was the Neuralink, but it was like a game.

Nkeiru: So it was supposed to be like a. Fun little whack-a-mole game. That's, uh, someone like, so he gets a chip installed on his head so he can see like what happens, and then it turns into like a whole thing, like a horror thing, um, in typical Black Mirror fashion. Um, but yeah, it's like interesting conversations on that.

Nkeiru: Then you've got things like games as well. So like a perfect example is, uh, well maybe not, it's not a chip. 'cause they, they're basically mostly, I'm going back to cyberpunk, as you can tell, I'm a massive fan. But even like that, so like my brother was saying, it was interesting to see how, you know, in their universe, you know, like you said with like recordings.

Nkeiru: So phones basically don't exist. If you wanna call someone, you literally have a mural link like plugged into, like you've got a chip in your brain essentially. So you just basically go through it in your head and you're just like, like if I was gonna say call in Kru, I'd just like think about it and it'll start calling you.

Nkeiru: And then I can basically decide if you can see what I see. Or if I just like, if we're just speaking on the phone, um, there's also a conversation like cyberpunk, they have shards, so [00:58:00] they use that to like contain data. So if you are looking to, I don't know, like. I know, like scan a computer, whatever, like you just use a shard, even like the way that they're like, it's interesting in that world, like, and I think that was what, uh, someone says in the game.

Nkeiru: It's interesting that like most people in that world, apart from, what is that group called? There is a group that basically doesn't have a lot of tech, but most people in that world have implemented tech into them to the point where like, some people are more tech than human. And there's a really interesting concept in that universe, which is called cyber psychosis.

Nkeiru: So it's essentially, they don't really know like what causes it. There isn't like a direct cause, but the belief is it's a mix between like external pressures, so like someone who's living in like a high stressful environment. And then it's also a mix of, um, uh, uh, of like too much, like they say chrome, but essentially it's like too much like cybernetics on their body.

Nkeiru: And that causes people to basically like lose all control. They basically, [00:59:00] it's almost like they become like, like violent people. It's harder to talk to them. Um, and yeah, in the game, like you don't really. You don't really get to like, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? You don't really get to talk. Like, you don't really get to learn more.

Nkeiru: Like you learn bits about it, but there's never like a conclusion that's found out to what causes it. But it's interesting to see like stuff like that. 'cause obviously like people are saying, you know, it'd be cool to be able to like, you know, if you have cybernetic arms, you can like lift stuff or you can like, you know, integrate with tech, do all these cool things.

Nkeiru: Um, and then, yeah. One final thing from cyberpunk that's quite interesting, which I thought of and it's now literally just left my mind, was, uh, it was to do, we were talking about the tech chroming up scanning. Now I've forgotten. Um, I've forgotten. If it comes to me, I'll let you guys know. But I think, like you said, like the implementation of tech into like people is interesting.

Nkeiru: The conversation. I do you think so? Mm, mm Uh, but I do think you're right. I think it is interesting, interesting to see, especially how biotech has changed [01:00:00] like over like even like, I guess between like. Let's even talk like nineties or eighties to now. Like it's been wild to see absolutely how tech has changed.

Nkeiru: Um, and it'll be interesting to see the future. I now remember I got there in the end it was actually linking to what we're talking about ai. I'm not saying this and like with full warning, this is not me saying this is what's gonna happen with ai. So please do not assume that cyberpunk is writing the future.

Nkeiru: But they have a really interesting concept. So I think it, funnily enough, I think it was in 2030, um, they, they basically, they have the internet, uh, well, they still technically do, but then they were using ai. The AI basically became self-aware and started to essentially. Hack and attack people. So what this organization called Net Watch, um, what they do is they create, essentially they cordon off the internet.

Nkeiru: And it's not the, it's basically like corner, think of it like there's a wall that basically keeps all the AI out and essentially their job, uh, net watch's job, even though [01:01:00] they're also morally a bit questionable and kind of corrupt, is they are, their job is to ensure that like the AI doesn't come and attack.

Nkeiru: 'cause like they, the, when they basically were running free, like they were causing like pow outages, they were re remove, like basically like hacking people, cybernetics, um, you know, uh, causing them to then get cyber psychosis, all of these things. So it is really interesting in that universe because they talk about like how AI get to interact with some, like the way, even like the characters.

Nkeiru: Like fear it so much in that universe. And you do interact with some, and it is basically, the barrier is called the black wall. And the black wall basically stops, um, the AI from coming through. But then it's also interesting because the AI are becoming like, they essentially know about it and net the, you meet one of these agents from Net Watch and they say like, yeah, we like repeatedly these AI trying to come back through the internet and like access all this stuff.

Nkeiru: So even like, I guess people see that and they're just like, that's what AI is basically like, that's the road we're going down. Wow. And I don't think necessarily think that is the case, but I think it's really interesting. Like even just [01:02:00] like for me it's just like the creative mindset of cyberpunk and it's a huge thing.

Nkeiru: There's a tabletop game, but there's also the video game Cyberpunk 2027. The writer of it, I've forgotten the guy that's Mike something. He even said that like the tabletop game and the video game are both set in the same universe. They also, if you're interested in anime, they have an anime. It's called Cyberpunk Edge Runners.

Nkeiru: Just check it out. They have a new. Cyberpunk anime coming next year. So you check it out. But also cyberpunk too, it's not for a while 'cause it has to wait for the witch four to come out first, but essentially you've got loads of time to catch up with cyberpunk. There's a lot of stuff there. Um, but it does, like you said about like asking questions about like AI and tech and, um, without, ah, I mean the game's been out for a while.

Nkeiru: Um, one, like one, another thing I say about the game is it talks about like, essentially like the how, like the longevity of humans. So there's this thing called the, the, the, I forgot the relic, but essentially it's this chip that it stores people and they call it end grounds, but essentially it's like someone, like a digital version of a person.

Nkeiru: So it doesn't necessarily mean, like, when we're talking about like souls and stuff, this is like [01:03:00] essentially their brain is copied onto a chip and then the argument is that like they can, so essentially this is where I guess like very like. Wild. And I don't think this is where the neuro Tripp is going, so if it, well, hopefully not.

Nkeiru: But essentially they, um, use, so the, the main character essentially has a chip of, with an engram of this guy played by Keanu Roo. Uh, and he basically ends up getting shot in the game within like the first act. And then it's all about, essentially the gram is, so, the difficulty comes 'cause the gram is only supposed to be used in dead bodies.

Nkeiru: So it's supposed to be like, oh, you know, so and so's maybe like passed away and died. They have, there's also a lot of corruption in this place. So they get a body from somewhere they put the gram that like so and so is typically it's also, this is mainly for the rich, but put it in someone else's body.

Nkeiru: So and so can then walk around and exist in another person's body. They're not dead and they get to live happy ever after. The issue is your cha the character that you play as. Guys, um, well like got shot [01:04:00] with the shard in his head when he was alive. So your character, the character you play comes back to life.

Nkeiru: But the difficulty is your character, the engram on your, the of the shard that your character's got also gets activated. And long story short, the character throughout the whole game is trying to find a way to basically live and survive. Because the character that you are, the ngram that you, the character has, is basically rewriting the person's DNA and the chip is basically seeing the host's body, which is your character as almost like foreign body and is wiping them away.

Nkeiru: So she said it's basically getting, gonna get to a stage where. Essentially your, the character that you play as will just essentially cease to exist and the Ngram will have full control over the body. And it's a really interesting story. Is that the plot of Yeah. Plot. So you are basically, the whole plot is like, you have to find a way to survive.

Nkeiru: Uh, I'll be honest, you don't find there's, they haven't confirmed a true ending and there's multiple endings, and that's a whole separate conversation for another day. [01:05:00] Um, because I've played cyberpunk, 

Nkeiru: but that's not what I got for it. That's what you I, no, I, I, I love cyberpunk because of, um, the futuristic concepts that are inside of it.

Nkeiru: So when I was playing, it was just like, wow. Oh my gosh, this is so cool. Wow. What interesting way to do this. But I don't think I paid attention to the story much, so I think I might have to go back into it. Oh, I'd recommend 

Nkeiru: they also have, uh, they added an expansion called Phantom Liberty. It's got Idris Selva in it, which is always fun.

Nkeiru: Um, but it is really good. It's, it adds like a thriller aspect and it also touches actually on, I won't explore that, but it touches on the AI elements that we discussed. Uh, and there's a lot of, it's a, as a game to, like you said, like I think tech wise, it's very much like, it's a beautiful game. It looks very like, like I said, like the way, um, it builds like a tech, basically a technological city of the future is, is amazing.

Nkeiru: But yeah, it's just like the, the topics that it touches on is very interesting. And it goes into like, yeah, that game that like, it's one of those things where like in the moment there's certain things that happen, especially in like some side quests. [01:06:00] I as a guy who like doesn't always do side quests and games, 'cause sometimes they're a bit too much.

Nkeiru: I'd recommend there's a whole subplot line of essentially the possibility of a mayor. A mayor, um. Um, I can't even say the word. Basically someone go going to be mayor. Uh, I can't say mayoral May mayor. Mayoral. Mayoral. Mayor. Mayor. Um, but yeah, there you basically goes into a whole subplot of how you found out that, uh, the new mayor who's basically gets elected, um, the previous one was killed.

Nkeiru: You then find out that someone essentially does some stuff to cause the assassination of the previous mayor, and then through investigating stuff, you find out that someone has been working to influence and control the minds of the existing mayor. His wife are these widows, his wife. Now you, so these are, I won't say what this could mean, but it's, it is never, that's one thing I wouldn't say I didn't like.

Nkeiru: It's one thing I'm excited about the second game. A lot of this stuff isn't answered in this game. Mm-hmm. So there's a lot of stuff left to, but yeah, I would say yeah, we, it, it's fine. It's okay. Um, [01:07:00] but yeah. No, thank you very much. Uh. I'm always happy to talk about Cyber Park and I know I will keep on going.

Nkeiru: Um, but we're gonna go on to the next segment, which is Mc of the month, our organizational individual relation related to the conversation we're talking about. And today's one is coding black females. Uh 

Nkeiru: oh. 

Nkeiru: But 

Nkeiru: Charlene Hunter, we're very well acquainted. 

Nkeiru: Oh, really good. Um, yeah, they do incredible work.

Nkeiru: You know, as they spotlight, uh, black women in tech through community coding workshops and career support, uh, we know that they've also partnered with you and are known for incredible work in developing the next generation of underrepresented tech leaders. And, you know, as someone who, uh, you know, I think from everyone watching, uh, here today can, uh, agree with me in saying that, you know, it's clear that you will definitely be a tech leader in the future.

Nkeiru: Oh, thank you. You're very welcome. Um, I think it's just, yeah, it's perfect. Uh, synergy between the two of you. Um, so yeah. There onto you of the month. So check 'em out. Uh, and maybe if you're interested in tech, uh. They might be an organization that could help you. So check 'em out. 

Nkeiru: [01:08:00] Definitely they, um, allow for, uh, young black women or black women in general to upskill and find entry level roles or just roles in general in tech, in the tech space.

Nkeiru: Um, I personally also did a bootcamp with them, um, early in my professional career, uh, which I really, really loved. It was excellent and, you know, I've ever since been in the ecosystem. So big thank you to coding black females, uh, Charlene, and the team as well. 

Nkeiru: Perfect. Cool. Uh, but we've now come to the very end of the, well, no, no, not just yet.

Nkeiru: The second last segment before you go to the outro, which is our takeaway segment. Uh, as, uh, well, I, I'm gonna stop that because we, we, we'll get a takeaway. We will get a sponsor delivery leads, uh, whoever. It's coming. It's coming. Um, but as we wait for that, we we're now just delivering messages to me to go home with, uh, ku it's been amazing speaking to you.

Nkeiru: Um, could I, sorry. It's honestly, it's been like great. It's truly inspiring. Uh, you do incredible work. Thank you. And, uh, as, as I've discussed before, I [01:09:00] always, well, it's, uh, another gamer. I actually can't believe I didn't say this. Uh, you have a YouTube channel as well. 

Jeffrey: Oh, 

Nkeiru: uh, and, uh, yeah, through your YouTube channel, I learned a lot about you as well.

Nkeiru: Um, but yeah, you do incredible work and I think everyone listening or watching can agree. There's a lot we've discussed. Uh, and aside from, you know, keeping an eye, well, signing up for your services, uh, and events, uh, and also portraying cyberpunk and keeping an eye on the tech space as a whole, what would you say is one message people should go home with today?

Nkeiru: Oh, um, okay. I was thinking about this. Um, and I don't want it to be something cliche, but I think, I think the general message will be if you have something that you want to do, I don't wanna say just do it, but it's, it's really that simple. Um, I think a lot of things that have been, that have ever held me back in some of the projects I've been interested in are not having enough money or top [01:10:00] capital to do it, or having the time, um, you know, not having the resources.

Nkeiru: But something that I, a quote that I came across recently is the timing task anyway. Um, I remember when I was deciding, Hmm, do I wanna get a master's in cybersecurity? Like, oh, it's gonna take so long to be two. The time will pass anyway. I'll either have the degree in two years or I won't. I'll still be here in two years with or without the degree.

Nkeiru: Um, so I think, I think that's what's kind of got me through a lot of different things. Um, you know, sometimes I'm like, I think I need a holiday this, this year. Um, I really need to do something to reground myself. A time will pass anyway. I can either have another one of these keys by the end of the year or not, you know, a whole set of experiences or not.

Nkeiru: And it's the type, that's the mentality that kind of even got me through years and years and years of my, um, my driving lessons and stuff like that, for example. It's so applicable to everything. Um, the time will pass anyway. So, um, [01:11:00] a lot of people say that the key to success is consistency or, you know, really high quality stuff.

Nkeiru: I think just as long as you get started, it'll come to you, you'll find your momentum and I think it's very easy to look up other people and be like, oh, they're going faster, or they're going harder, or, you know, they're, they, they have more success. Like they've got more to show for what they've done. But I think just get started.

Nkeiru: I think it's something that I have to. Can I do as well? I'm trying to get back into my content creation bag, um, with, uh, my YouTube channel that Jeffrey has exposed or, um, you know, just like on Instagram and stuff, and I'm always looking at other people like, wow, their, their, uh, videos are so clean or, you know, just different things.

Nkeiru: Um, and I think I just need to get into it. Get into it. Um, I really just need to kind of hit the ground running because the time will pass anyway and I'll either have done it. Or not. So think about it. Where would you like to see yourself in a week's time? You can say, okay, I'm [01:12:00] gonna post this today. I'm gonna do this today.

Nkeiru: I'm gonna send that today. The time is gonna cost anyway. Will or will you not have something, have done it? You know, deliverable. I think that's what people, or you may need to ask yourself. There's something that you ought do. In the near future. Um, and hopefully if it does work out, definitely reach out to pick up the mic from yourself.

Nkeiru: Thank you very much. Um, and yeah, that's it. Uh, thank you very much. Like I said, absolutely pleasure. Learned a lot. That was very inspired. Um, I have many follow up questions that I'll be asking off camera. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Um, but I think for y end, this is our opportunity to give, uh, a plug into anything. How can people connect with you?

Nkeiru: I'll be honest, as I've mentioned to all our guests in season, we have a lot of episode. We have. Gone further ahead in planning content than I'm used to. So, uh, this may come out in 2026, potentially. Oh my goodness. Um, so is there stuff next year that you've got people to be excited for and you want to sort of like, put on their radars?

Nkeiru: Um, but yeah, how people connect with [01:13:00] you and Yeah. Like yeah. How can people come with you? You got three Z? 

Nkeiru: Yeah. Okay. First of all, I'll be back, so don't you worry about that. Uh, second of all, okay, so let's start with Web3 z. If you know anyone between the ages of eight to 15 who you would like to start to kickstart their tech journey, um, you can find Web3 Z on Instagram, YouTube, as well as, uh, the website, our web, our website, sorry.

Nkeiru: Uh, and that's http Web3 z.com. Web3 Z is B three SY Web3 Z. If you think you're gonna forget that, just remember Web3, easy. So there's that. Um, and if you'd like to get in contact with myself, um, my handle on most, uh, social media is Nru, N-K-X-I-R-U. 'cause I'm different, but I'm sure if you search up my name, um, maybe in a search engine or LinkedIn, uh, you will find me on LinkedIn I'm at in.

Nkeiru: Um, um, and what else? Yeah, [01:14:00] YouTube, Instagram, not really on TikTok, but, um, I don't know. Maybe when I'm in my content creation bag, I will be there, especially by 2026. Um, and yeah. Yeah, so please just find me anywhere. I also have my personal website in kka.com, NK ei RUKA com, uh, which is kind of just an overview of everything that I do.

Nkeiru: Um, but yeah, this has been amazing. Thank you so much for giving me, uh, a platform to chat with you. Um, and I'm really looking forward to hearing everyone's success stories and I'm almost their stories, so send them regardless. Um, and I hear from everyone soon. 

Nkeiru: Thank you and thank you to you. I wonder call link to come back a like comes described As always appreciated.

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Nkeiru: As, you know, I have mentioned, funnily enough, probably all four of them in some aspects in this conversation. Uh, there's senses of anime for our anime [01:16:00] fans out there. Uh, pick up the controller for our gaming plans out there. And, uh, the two maces was Joshua Morgan, uh, who at this time of recording. They, uh, have been very busy in their own personal stuff, but they have confirmed that the next few weeks, uh, in August, they'll be recording.

Nkeiru: They'll be hitting the ground running, so you can expect, uh, discussions on the new Superman film. Fantastic. Four, the state of Marvel. What's happening next with, uh, game of, uh, with House of the Dragon, not Game of Thrones, rings of power, discussing that. Um, the new June film. I can't think of more sci-fi stuff in this moment, but all of it they'll be discussing and more to make sure they're subscribe to that.

Nkeiru: Um, and yeah. Finally, as I mentioned, if this does come out in 2026, I've mentioned it in a few episodes already, and I'm hoping I've already done at least one of these, is, uh, I have committed to doing at least one event or workshop or something from pick up the mic for the community across the whole year, whether that is in person, online for a big commu, for a big number of people, for a smaller number of people, there will be one thing to pick up the mic [01:17:00] across all.

Nkeiru: 12, I about say four, but that's not correct. Or 12 months of 2026. Uh, we also, I might as well say you this now. We'll be celebrating five years and pick up the mic, which is what I have to think of. But yeah, um, five years is wild. Uh, congratulations. Thank you so much. I, um, amm currently deep in planning modes of how I have ideas for how this could work.

Nkeiru: I just need to see what the team think and confirm those. But yes, there'll be more, more stuff coming your way. And we will continue to have our regular events of our Women's History Month panel, our Black History Month panel, um, more networking s more collaborations, but most importantly. Uh, which is funnily enough from an elevator pitch conversation I had, uh, earlier this week with some of my colleagues about how to describe the work that you do.

Nkeiru: And I say that what we do here is we're connecting people to people. So we'll be doing more of that through content, more podcast channels, interviews, all of this fun stuff. So subscribe to the channel, [01:18:00] Scott arrived to our newsletter, stay in the community. Uh, but yeah, I've been ya on for too long. We're gonna close this chapter with the student guide.

Nkeiru: Thank you so much for coming. Uh, we'll see you all in the next episode with the new chapter, new guests, uh, but most importantly, an amazing conversation. So bye from us here. Have a great day and we'll see you all in the next episode.